Religious Freedom Restoration Act

Discussion in 'Chat' started by W5HRO, Apr 3, 2015.

  1. W5HRO

    W5HRO Administrator

    You know this is a prime example of how many communists there are in America now. The Religious Freedom Restoration Act just passed in Indiana does absolutely nothing except protect people who claim they have religious beliefs and don't want to be forced into doing something that goes against that belief. So what's wrong with that? This is suppose to be America where you can do, believe in and say what you want, right? Well, obviously not ::)

    The problem is too may people here in America want to turn it into something else because it goes against their communist ways. When I turned on the news the other night right after they passed the law this whole state of California was in an outraged over it, but that's typical of a state filled with mostly communists today so it's not surprising at all. Indiana is still a conservative state and I know because I was born and raised there and all they are trying to do I hold on to something that is being slowly eroded away here in America today. If states like California don't like it they should move to some other fucking country where their communist crap fits in :icon_wave:

    I'm not a religious person, but I don't care what others believe in because that is their right and if Indiana wants to pass a law that protects those rights then more power to them :icon_thumbup:
     
  2. KE9XQ

    KE9XQ Member

    :smile: While I am a religious guy, I can see the freedom of religion, but that does not mean freedom from religion which so many want. If I own a store or a business, I should be able to run it the way ' I " want to, with the insurance if offered the way I want to, you do not have to work for me and I don't have to hire you... It is a sad state of affairs, when big brother tells me I have to bake a cake for someone, or perform a marriage ceremony for a couple that is against every moral and religious beliefs in my body. IF they want to get married, go to someone that cares less about the subject. Forcing a minorities actions upon someone that has differing beliefs then they do is wrong to the core. Looks like Hobby lobby and others are gong to have to start their fight all over again??? Will this garbage ever cease??? :icon_crazy: 73 for now Bill KE9XQ
     
  3. W5HRO

    W5HRO Administrator

    It all started in the direction this country went right before and then after WWII. FDR's administration slowly moved America more towards socialism which was fine as long as it was held in check within a capitalist framework. I will be the first to admit that what works the best here in America is socialism held within a capitalist framework, but most Americans will never dare come out and say that, but it's true. The big mistake they made back then was not rolling into into Russia during the war and finishing the job.

    The real problem today is that socialism side of our society has turned into full-fledged unabashed communism with no end in sight and it escalated primarily during the 1960's and 1970's. Now it's completely out of control to where someday everything will probably be made illegal and you will no longer have any rights left at all and will need a permit just to be able to walk out your own fucking front door.
     
  4. KE9XQ

    KE9XQ Member

    Pretty well agree OM
    Rights are eroded every day. While I think the very inception of communism is beautiful, we both know that right around the corner selfishness and ambition greed and gain enter the picture and the big picture is as always put aside and the picture gets bleaker every day. I kind of half predicted a civil war or at least some anarchy a long time ago, but don't think we'll see another Boston Tea Party in our lifetime. Seems as I said the minority is always going to have more rights then the rest of civilization... If we can still call it that : ) 73 fer now Bill KE9XQ
     
  5. W8EJO

    W8EJO Member

    The First Amendment to our Constitution which “prohibits the making of any law…impeding the free exercise of religion” should make Freedom of Religion laws completely unnecessary.

    But we live in lawless times where our Constitution is largely ignored.

    What this is really all about is the continuing war on Christianity by the political left and the media, but I repeat myself.
     
  6. KE9XQ

    KE9XQ Member

    Yupper
    Repeating is needed sometimes : ) I (think) I can see at least some of the opponents views, but you are right in that we should not have laws such as many we do have, in fact many cannot be maintained : ) But I'd like to throw a little mud in the water, how about sheria (SP) laws??? There are a bunch of hucksters and shuksters and charlintons (both SP) that maybe should be behind bars : ) One of these I personally hate, is I cannot rent my house to whomever I want : ) Another is eminent domain, but then agin we'd start yet another rabbit trail that will lead us to no where fast : ) I'm just thinking we sure live in an upside down society, yet I would not trade it for 90% of anything else out there ; ) 73 fr now Bill KE9XQ
     
  7. W8EJO

    W8EJO Member

    Its not just the 1st amendment its also common sense. A black Christian baker shouldn't be forced to bake a cake for a KKK party nor should a Jew be forced to bake a cake for a Nazi rally.

    But we live in an age of growing government tyranny where apparently its just fine to force a Christian baker or photographer to participate in a homosexual "marriage".

    Notice also the target is Christian. The left knows better than to go after a Muslim baker even though Muslims openly advocate death to homosexuals.
     
  8. KE9XQ

    KE9XQ Member

    Yah, I think it's sad to see the one sided ness. It would be interesting to see a Muslim bake a cake for a couple of hollywood queens : ) But then again maybe that happens. I live in a rather isolated area from much of this garbage, so I can't speak too loudly. Sure we have that stough going on, but it's not 'big' time like we see so much of in the papers and news. Thankfully for that. It would be interesting to see the media report 'news' like you could imagine it was reported with the little corner news paper outlet in the old West... : ) For the last few years, I hardly EVER pay attention the the news, ya can't believe half of what you see or hear anyways. And to top it off, I could care less some basket ball player is coming out of his closet, he hold have stayed there in the first place... OK, enough from me for now, back to my bowl : ) 73 Bill
     
  9. W5HRO

    W5HRO Administrator

    What about separation between church and state? I think that trumps everything anyway, right?

    Like I've said before, I'm not a religious person and that should be completely obvious by now, but everyone should have the right to do and believe in what they want and nobody, not even the federal U.S. government should be allowed to dictate any of that to anyone or any business. Doing so is nothing more than committing a communist act no matter which way you look at it.

    It is a common sense issue, but it's also about having respect for others who don't believe in the same thing as you do. It's called freedom which is something many Americas don't seem to understand anymore. The way I see it Indiana just has the balls to try and do something about it unlike others regardless whether it's being pushed by Christians or Atheists. It's their right to do so.
     
  10. KE9XQ

    KE9XQ Member

    you're pretty well right OM respect would indeed fix a lot of problems. Introvertiveness creates these, and respect would quell the situations we find ourselves in. Separation of church and state would be ideal, but you have to admit the state does not like to do this : ) Freedom of religion is great too, until you get people like ISIS and then you almost want to help them meet their maker : ) Then too, we have the irreligious people feigning religion for the fast buck, prestige or to get away with certain agendas... : ) Pretty soon, my insurance will not be any good if I don't use a certain brand of tooth paste : ) Like I said earlier too, we live in a pretty upside down world right now, but still would not trade the US of A for just about anything else : ) 73 again Bill