807 typical operating cond.

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  1. W6MQI

    W6MQI Member

    Found this awhile back not sure if this is the right place for it. Move or delete if you need to Brian.
    So when exactly did the code name or term 807 for a beer get started? I remember hearing it used back in the early 70's so it must have been way before that.

    807 Beer Beam Power Tube
    Application
    Heater-cathode type used as af power amplifier and modulator and as rf power amplifier and oscillator. May be used with full input up to 60 MHz. For class C telegraphy operation at 80 MHz, plate voltage and input should be reduced to 80 % of maximum ratings; at 125 MHz to 55 %. Class C telegraphy maximum plate dissipation, CCS 25 Watts, ICAS 30 Watts, BINGE 3 pints. Requires substantial quantities of beer and a small 5-contact socket and may be operated in almost any position. Plate shows a rich amber color when tube is operated at maximum CCS, ICAS or BINGE ratings. Exceeding ratings can cause a malt down.

    Mechanical Data
    Bulb .......................................... ST-16
    Base .......................................... Medium Shell Small 5-Pin
    Outline ....................................... 16-2 with enlarged belly
    EIEIOA Base ................................... 5AW
    Pop Top Cap ................................... Small
    Mounting Position ............................. Upright
    Drinking Position .............................. Any

    Electrical Data
    Heater Characteristics
    Heater Voltage ................................ 6.3 Volts
    Heater Current ................................ 0.9 Amperes
    Maximum Heather-Cathode Voltage
    Heater Positive with Respect to Cathode ..... 135 Volts
    Heater Negative with Respect to Cathode ..... 135 Volts
    Fill Rate ................................... .07 lph

    Direct Inter electrode Capacitance (approx)
    Pentode
    Input ......................................... 12 pf
    Output ........................................ 7 pf
    Grid to Plate ................................. 0.2 pf
    Envelope capacity ............................. 0.2 pints

    Maximum Ratings (Design Center Values)
    Pentode
    Plate Voltage ................................. 750 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Supply Voltage ..................... 400 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Voltage ............................ 300 Volts
    Negative Grid No. 1 Voltage ................... -200 Volts
    Plate Dissipation ............................. 30 Watts
    Grid No. 2 Dissipation ........................ 3.5 Watts
    Cathode Current ............................... 120 Ma.
    Alcohol content ............................... 6%

    Characteristics and Typical Operation
    Class C Amplifier (CCS)
    Plate Voltage ................................. 400 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Voltage ............................ 250 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Dropping Resistor .................. 19K Ohms
    Grid No. 1 Voltage ............................ -45 Volts
    Peak Grid No. 1 Voltage ....................... 65 Volts
    Grid No. 1 Current ............................ 4 Ma.
    Plate Current (Zero Signal) ................... 100 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Zero Signal) .............. 8 Ma.
    Driving Power ................................. 0.3 Watts
    Power Output (approx) ......................... 35 Watts
    Beer consumption .............................. .015 pints/watt

    Class C Amplifier (CCS)
    Plate Voltage ................................. 500 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Voltage ............................ 250 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Dropping Resistor .................. 31K Ohms
    Grid No. 1 Voltage ............................ -45 Volts
    Peak Grid No. 1 Voltage ....................... 65 Volts
    Grid No. 1 Current ............................ 4 Ma.
    Plate Current (Zero Signal) ................... 100 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Zero Signal) .............. 8 Ma.
    Driving Power ................................. 0.3 Watts
    Power Output (approx) ......................... 32 Watts
    Beer consumption .............................. .011 pints/watt

    Class C Amplifier (CCS)
    Plate Voltage ................................. 600 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Voltage ............................ 250 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Dropping Resistor .................. 44K Ohms
    Grid No. 1 Voltage ............................ -45 Volts
    Peak Grid No. 1 Voltage ....................... 65 Volts
    Grid No. 1 Current ............................ 4 Ma.
    Plate Current (Zero Signal) ................... 100 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Zero Signal) .............. 8 Ma.
    Driving Power ................................. 0.4 Watts
    Power Output (approx) ......................... 40 Watts
    Beer consumption .............................. .019 pints/watt

    Class C Amplifier (ICAS)
    Plate Voltage ................................. 750 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Voltage ............................ 250 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Dropping Resistor .................. 62K Ohms
    Grid No. 1 Voltage ............................ -45 Volts
    Peak Grid No. 1 Voltage ....................... 65 Volts
    Grid No. 1 Current ............................ 4 Ma.
    Plate Current (Zero Signal) ................... 100 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Zero Signal) .............. 8 Ma.
    Driving Power ................................. 0.3 Watts
    Power Output (approx) ......................... 54 Watts
    Beer consumption .............................. .025 pints/watt

    Class C Modulated Amplifier (CCS)
    Plate Voltage ................................. 325 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Voltage ............................ 250 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Dropping Resistor .................. 12.5K Ohms
    Grid No. 1 Voltage ............................ -75 Volts
    Peak Grid No. 1 Voltage ....................... 95 Volts
    Grid No. 1 Current ............................ 3.5 Ma.
    Plate Current (Zero Signal) ................... 80 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Zero Signal) .............. 6 Ma.
    Driving Power ................................. 0.3 Watts
    Power Output (approx) ......................... 17 Watts
    Beer consumption .............................. .010 pints/watt

    Class C Modulated Amplifier (CCS)
    Plate Voltage ................................. 400 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Voltage ............................ 250 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Dropping Resistor .................. 25K Ohms
    Grid No. 1 Voltage ............................ -75 Volts
    Peak Grid No. 1 Voltage ....................... 95 Volts
    Grid No. 1 Current ............................ 3.5 Ma.
    Plate Current (Zero Signal) ................... 80 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Zero Signal) .............. 6 Ma.
    Driving Power ................................. 0.3 Watts
    Power Output (approx) ......................... 22 Watts
    Beer consumption .............................. .012 pints/watt

    Class C Modulated Amplifier (CCS)
    Plate Voltage ................................. 475 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Voltage ............................ 250 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Dropping Resistor .................. 28K Ohms
    Grid No. 1 Voltage ............................ -85 Volts
    Peak Grid No. 1 Voltage ....................... 108 Volts
    Grid No. 1 Current ............................ 4 Ma.
    Plate Current (Zero Signal) ................... 83 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Zero Signal) .............. 8 Ma.
    Driving Power ................................. 0.4 Watts
    Power Output (approx) ......................... 28 Watts
    Beer consumption .............................. .014 pints/watt

    Class C Modulated Amplifier (Plate - ICAS)
    Plate Voltage ................................. 600 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Voltage ............................ 300 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Dropping Resistor .................. 37.5K Ohms
    Grid No. 1 Voltage ............................ -85 Volts
    Peak Grid No. 1 Voltage ....................... 107 Volts
    Grid No. 1 Current ............................ 4 Ma.
    Plate Current (Zero Signal) ................... 100 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Zero Signal) .............. 8 Ma.
    Driving Power ................................. 0.4 Watts
    Power Output (approx) ......................... 44 Watts
    Beer consumption .............................. .023 pints/watt

    Push Pull Class AB2 Amplifier (CCS)
    Plate Voltage ................................. 400 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Voltage ............................ 300 Volts
    Grid No. 1 Voltage ............................ -28 Volts
    Peak Grid No. 1 Voltage ....................... 80 Volts
    Plate Current (Zero Signal) ................... 72 Ma.
    Plate Current (Maximum Signal) ................ 240 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Zero Signal) .............. 2 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Maximum Signal) ........... 20 Ma.
    Driving Power ................................. 0.2 Watts
    Load Resistance ............................... 3.7K Ohms
    Power Output (approx) ......................... 55 Watts
    Beer consumption .............................. .026 pints/watt

    Push Pull Class AB2 Amplifier (CCS)
    Plate Voltage ................................. 500 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Voltage ............................ 300 Volts
    Grid No. 1 Voltage ............................ -30 Volts
    Peak Grid No. 1 Voltage ....................... 86 Volts
    Plate Current (Zero Signal) ................... 60 Ma.
    Plate Current (Maximum Signal) ................ 240 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Zero Signal) .............. 0.9 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Maximum Signal) ........... 20 Ma.
    Driving Power ................................. 0.2 Watts
    Load Resistance ............................... 4.6K Ohms
    Power Output (approx) ......................... 75 Watts
    Beer consumption .............................. .045 pints/watt

    Push Pull Class AB2 Amplifier (CCS)
    Plate Voltage ................................. 600 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Voltage ............................ 300 Volts
    Grid No. 1 Voltage ............................ -32 Volts
    Peak Grid No. 1 Voltage ....................... 80 Volts
    Plate Current (Zero Signal) ................... 48 Ma.
    Plate Current (Maximum Signal) ................ 200 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Zero Signal) .............. 0.7 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Maximum Signal) ........... 18 Ma.
    Driving Power ................................. 0.1 Watts
    Load Resistance ............................... 6.9K Ohms
    Power Output (approx) ......................... 80 Watts
    Beer consumption .............................. .065 pints/watt

    Push Pull Class AB2 Amplifier (ICAS)
    Plate Voltage ................................. 750 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Voltage ............................ 300 Volts
    Grid No. 1 Voltage ............................ -35 Volts
    Peak Grid No. 1 Voltage ....................... 96 Volts
    Plate Current (Zero Signal) ................... 30 Ma.
    Plate Current (Maximum Signal) ................ 240 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Zero Signal) .............. 0.55 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Maximum Signal) ........... 10 Ma.
    Driving Power ................................. 0.2 Watts
    Load Resistance ............................... 6.95K Ohms
    Power Output (approx) ......................... 120 Watts
    Beer consumption .............................. .12 pints/watt - (have reserve beer on hand)

    Push Pull Class B Amplifier
    Plate Voltage ................................. 750 Volts
    Grid No. 1 Voltage ............................ 0 Volts
    Peak Grid No. 1 Voltage ....................... 555 Volts
    Plate Current (Zero Signal) ................... 15 Ma.
    Plate Current (Maximum Signal) ................ 240 Ma.
    Driving Power ................................. 5.3 Watts
    Load Resistance ............................... 6.65K Ohms
    Power Output (approx) ......................... 120 Watts
    Beer consumption .............................. .12 pints/watt - (have reserve beer on hand)

    Class AB1 Amplifier
    Plate Voltage ................................. 600 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Voltage ............................ 300 Volts
    Grid No. 1 Voltage ............................ -34 Volts
    Peak Grid No. 1 Voltage ....................... 34 Volts
    Plate Current (Zero Signal) ................... 18 Ma.
    Plate Current (Maximum Signal) ................ 70 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Zero Signal) .............. 0.3 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Maximum Signal) ........... 8 Ma.
    Driving Power ................................. 0 Watts
    Power Output (approx) ......................... 28 Watts
    Beer consumption .............................. .014 pints/watt

    Class AB1 Amplifier
    Plate Voltage ................................. 750 Volts
    Grid No. 2 Voltage ............................ 300 Volts
    Grid No. 1 Voltage ............................ -35 Volts
    Peak Grid No. 1 Voltage ....................... 35 Volts
    Plate Current (Zero Signal) ................... 15 Ma.
    Plate Current (Maximum Signal) ................ 70 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Zero Signal) .............. 0.3 Ma.
    Grid No. 2 Current (Maximum Signal) ........... 8 Ma.
    Driving Power ................................. 0 Watts
    Power Output (approx) ......................... 36 Watts
    Beer consumption .............................. .018 pints/watt
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  2. W5HRO

    W5HRO Administrator

    About 1948 or 1949 JAN military surplus 807's were about a quarter each from the mail order surplus suppliers and many of them had a mininum order. A ham who needed a few odds and ends usually padded his order with a few "bottles."

    At the same time many parks and other public places still didn't allow beer or other alcoholic beverages. Many hams of the era preferred warm beer and the 807 boxes were the right size to conceal the newfangled steel beer cans of the time. It wasn't unusual to see a ham sipping something from an 807 box or or using a church key to open one.
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